The Great Commission

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (Matthew 28:19)

The Trinitarian Question

The biggest problem that trinitarians face when trying to use the bible to present their view of the Godhead is that there are so few scriptures that even remotely mention Father, Son and Holy Ghost in the same verse. Matthew 28:19 is one of those few verses of scripture that does so.

In this verse of scripture, Jesus is giving the disciples a mandate to teach everywhere they go. He told them when they baptized people who they had taught that they should do so in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost (Mt. 28:19).

The question then that trinitarians ask is actually more of a statement then a question. They say that we see three persons in this verse because it mentions the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. This, they say, is sure proof of the trinity. If not, then who are the three that Jesus refers to?

The Trinitarian Dilemma

This verse is commonly known as the Great Commission. One of the main things we must understand, that most have missed concerning this great commission is the fact that it is exactly that; a commission. There was no one actually being baptized here. This was not a baptism taking This verse does not display any kind of a baptismal formula. This is Jesus simply talking to his disciples giving them a command to go out teaching, and baptizing their converts using the understanding that He imparted to them. The understanding of who He was – God.

Easy Religion

I want to talk about something else concerning baptism that does not necessarily fit in to the topic of this book, but is vitally important. The necessity of baptism is something that the church has gone away from teaching, but must be recognized again. In this day we live in mainstream Christianity has embraced this easy-believism. Most teachers, even those who embrace these teachings, will never say that they do. Most shun it with their words, but embrace it with their actions and teachings.

The vast majority of Christianity teaches that all you have to do to be saved is to accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior. He has given us an offer and we have a choice whether to accept his offer or reject it. Accepting Jesus as your savior is nowhere found in the scripture. No one in the bible ever asked the Lord into their heart as their personal savoir. Not one decision card was ever signed in the scripture. This is simply a biblical new birth experience.

In the generation we live in, it is unpopular to call people sinners. It is much more easily accepted to say that people made mistakes or bad choices. To say that mankind has a sin nature that separates us from God is not what people want to hear. We are considered judgmental if we tell someone that they must repent of their sins. Easy-believism has replaced repenting of your sins with, a much more easily swallowed, accepting Jesus as your personal savior. It went from us belonging to Him, to Him belonging to us. This may be the message of today, but it is not the message of the bible. The bible still says that if you do not repent, that you will perish (Lk. 13:5). It is time, in these last days, for true Christians to find religion that is not centered around us, but on Christ Jesus the Lord. We need a revival of repentance throughout our land.

Plan of Salvation?

Accepting Jesus as your savior has been coined the “plan of salvation”. They tell people to accept Jesus and to say a prayer with them. “If you want to be saved, say this prayer with me”. This is simply not biblical. Jesus never told people to have a plan of salvation, but always told them to be born again. We are not “saved” until we get to heaven. The bible says that when we endure until the end, then are we saved (Mt. 24:13). You do not become a Christian by obeying a plan of salvation, but by obeying the gospel (1 Cor. 15:1-4). This is better identified as a new birth experience.

Obey the Gospel

Paul said that the gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The bible tells us that those who do not obey the gospel will be punished with everlasting torment and separation from God (2 Th. 1:8). If we are to be saved, we must obey the gospel. This raises a great question. How do I obey the gospel? How do I obey a death, a burial or a resurrection?


As we have already seen, there is a stringent call for New Testament believers to repent. The bible tells us that when we repent of our sins that our old sinful man is now dead and we become a new creature in Christ (Rm. 6:6). This is how -we identify with the death of Jesus. When we repent of our sins, we obey or identify with the death part of the gospel.


After Jesus dies, He was buried. This is the same process we must go through if we are to completely obey His gospel. The scripture we have been talking about in this chapter was a commission from Jesus to His disciples to teach sinners and lead them to conversion. As we briefly talked about earlier in this chapter, Jesus assumed that the converts would be baptized. Baptism wasn’t a suggestion. It wasn’t meant for those who felt lead or who were part of a certain church. It was absolutely essential that if somebody was going to be converted into the church that they were to be baptized.

Jesus said this to Nicodemus: “Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God” (Jn. 3:5). This is a reference to water baptism and the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Mark recorded the great commission as well. He wrote it like this: “.. .Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” (Mk. 16:15-16) He was very clear here about the fact that Jesus required baptism for one to be saved. When the first converts in the book of Acts asked how they could be saved or what they should do, the apostolic response was to repent AND to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ FOR the remission of sins (Ac. 2:38). The word ‘for’ used here means; to obtain. Converts were baptized to obtain the remission of sins. They had to be baptized in order to have their sins remitted. If they were not baptized, their sins were not remitted. Water baptism is not a request, it is required.

Why is this so? Why is baptism required for salvation? Because it is a part of the new birth experience. Remember, we must obey the gospel. Paul said that we are “buried with Christ by baptism” (Rm. 6:3-4). This water baptism is more than some ritual we do to let people know we are Christians, but a meaningful burial with Christ into His death. When we are baptized, we are identified with His burial.  We are obeying the gospel.


Jesus Christ was raised back to life by the Spirit on the third day. His Spirit came back inside of His body and brought Him back to life. Every human is born with a sin nature; therefore, the Spirit of God must bring life into you, as it did with Christ in the tomb.

We are baptized into death, but if we are buried with Him in baptism, then we will also be in the likeness of His resurrection (Rm. 6:5). If we are dead with Him, we will also live with Him (Rm. 6:8). Just like with Jesus, this happens to us by the Spirit. We must be born of the Spirit (Jn. 3:5).

When a person receives the gift of the Holy Ghost, they are born of the Spirit. This is the experience of Christ coming to live in you. Most teach that Christ comes to live in you when we ask Jesus into our hearts. This is not what the bible says. Every person in the New Testament who ever received the baptism of the Holy Ghost did so with the accompanying sign of speaking in other tongues (Ac. 2:4, 10:46, 19:6). There is not one case where someone had this experience and did not speak with tongues. When someone receives this precious gift of the Holy Ghost, they have identified with the resurrection of Jesus. This is new life inside of a person.

The Key

Peter was given the keys to the kingdom and this is what he preached and taught. The gospel is like a three-toothed key that opens heaven’s door. If the key is missing one tooth it will not open the door, because it does not match the pattern. Repentance without baptism is an incomplete experience and does not fulfill the gospel. The key must have all three teeth in order to effectively open the door. Make sure you identify with all three parts of the gospel. It is the most important thing you will ever do.

A Biblical Illustration

People always ask for one scripture that says specifically that baptism saves us. Here is one scripture.

Peter uses an illustration about Noah and the floodwaters in his teaching about baptism. He said that in those days a boat was built and that by water eight souls were saved (1 Pe. 3:20). In other words, God destroyed all of the sin in the earth by the flood and eight souls were saved by this water. Then Peter makes his illustration clear in the next verse when he says openly that he is talking about baptism.

“Baptism does also now save us” is what peter said (1 Pe. 3:21). Now (the church age), just like the water saved them from sin in the days of Noah, so also does the water saves us from sin by baptism. Water baptism washes all the sin away. The flood was a type of baptism. Baptism is a part of how we experience the new birth.

Back To the Godhead

Let’s get back to the topic of the Godhead. Jesus said, “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:” (Mt. 28:19).

Notice that is says in the NAME (singular) of, not in the NAMES (plural) of. If the words Father, Son and Holy Ghost referred to three separate and distinct persons of the Godhead, would it not have been more accurate to use the word ‘names’? It is spoken of here in the singular not plural form.

The word ‘of is used in this verse and it is very important. In the name of the Father, and o/the Son, and o/the Holy Ghost. The word ‘of means; belongs to or belonging to.

Understanding this, we can have a better grasp on what Jesus is saying here. What Jesus is actually telling the disciples to do is baptize converts in the one name that belongs to the Father AND belongs to the Son AND belongs to the Holy Ghost. This does not sound like three distinct persons to me. This sounds more like three titles that refer to one name.

Divine Power Struggle

When looking at this verse of scripture, one doesn’t have to go far to find another verse to cause a contradiction with the trinitarian view. “And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.” (Mt. 28:18) Only one verse before the great commission was given to the disciples, Jesus told that He had all the power in heaven and earth.

We know that heaven is the Father’s dwelling place; and we also know that God is omnipresent. How could Jesus make such a statement? The trinitarian doctrine says that all three persons are co-equal, but Jesus says all power has been given unto Him in heaven and in earth. This is a problem for the other persons of the trinity. ALL power, not some; not a portion; not the “second person’s” portion; ALL power. Since we know that all the power belongs to Jesus, does that make the Father and the Holy Ghost powerless? Does that mean neither one of them have any power? If we are talking about three separate and distinct persons and Jesus claims He has every bit of the power, wouldn’t that render the Father and the Holy Ghost powerless?

Even if I were a trinitarian, I would not want to serve a trinity of whom two-thirds of the substance was incapable. We know that Jesus cannot have more power than the Father because Jesus said the Father is greater than Him (Jn. 14:28). How can Jesus have all the power yet the Father be greater? How does that even make sense? Here is how the scripture is reconciled together: Jesus said, “All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth”.

The key to understanding this is realizing that the power was “given” to Him. He had to have it given to Him before it was His. Trinitarians say that Jesus is the eternal Son, therefore having always been the co-equal second person of the trinity. This cannot be true, because at what point did an eternally powerful person receive His power that was “given” to Him? If He is an eternal equal then He must have always had this power. The bible says otherwise. Again, I believe the bible.

When the Father manifested in His Son Jesus at His conception in the womb of the virgin, then and only then did Jesus begin to have all the power in heaven and earth. What Jesus was saying was that the Father has all the power, but the Father is in me which gives me all the power. “Because the Father is in me I have all the power in heaven and I have all the power in earth. If the Father was not in me, I would not have all the power in heaven and in earth. The all-powerful and Almighty Father dwells in me, therefore, I have all power in heaven and all power in earth.” From an oneness viewpoint, this does not render the Father and the Holy Ghost powerless because the Father and the Holy Ghost are one Spirit. That one Spirit of God dwells inside the person Jesus Christ giving Him all power.

Who Is With Us?

The next problem for the triune viewpoint is found in verse 20. “I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” (Mt. 28:20) Here is the problem. After fulfilling His duties of dying on the cross, Jesus ascended to the Father (Lk. 24:51). Was Jesus incorrect in His statement? He said He would always be with them and right after He made this statement He left. Jesus was about to give a whole new meaning to the expression “I’ll be with you in Spirit”.

Jesus said He was going to leave and send the Comforter. How can these things be? He tells them He is leaving and sending the Comforter; then He tells them He will always be with them as He is leaving. This sounds contradictory until we examine His words. Jesus made a statement to His disciples that gives us a better understanding on this topic. He said “I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you” (Jn. 14:18). He said this right before telling them that the Comforter was the Holy Ghost (Jn. 14:26). What Jesus was saying to them was that when the Holy Ghost would come to them at Pentecost, it would actually be Him there with them as the Comforter. He would not leave them comfortless, He would come to them (Jn. 14:18). When someone receives the Holy Ghost they receive Jesus because Jesus and the Holy Ghost are not two different persons, but the Holy Ghost is the Spirit of Jesus that now dwells in the believer.

This is what gives Jesus the basis for making the statement that He did in verse 20; “…I am with you always, even unto the end of the world, Amen.” He is able to leave them in the physical and tangible sense and yet still be there with them, because He was speaking not only as the human Son, but as the divine Spirit. This sounds very oneness.


The great commission does not prove the trinity any more than it proves the triune baptismal formula. The reference to the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are not a proof of three persons, but that one God has at least three titles. I am a Father, because I have children. I am a Son because I have parents. I am a preacher because I proclaim the gospel of Christ. This in no way makes me three persons, but one person who fulfills three offices. This is the same way that we can understand these titles as referring to God. He is the Father in creation; the Son in redemption and the Holy Ghost in regeneration.

What this commission also teaches us is that not one person in the New Testament was baptized any other way except for in the name of Jesus Christ, once the church began its work. The church, from day one, baptized exclusively in the name of Jesus Christ. Over 2,000 years have passed and that fact has still never changed. True baptism is still done in the name of Jesus Christ and is still essential to the new birth experience.

The most important thing to consider in this chapter is not whether you have a scholar’s understanding of the Godhead, but if you have experienced the new birth according to the scriptures. If you’ve never been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, I urge you to do that today. If you have only been baptized using the titles Father, Son and Holy Ghost, merely repeating verbatim the words of Jesus and not fulfilling them, I am asking you to contact an Apostolic minister in your area and have him baptize you into the name of Jesus. If you are part of the bride you will never regret taking on the name of your husband.

Scripture References


Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 10:48

And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Acts 2:37

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Luke 3:5

Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low; and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough ways shall be made smooth;

Matthew 24:13

But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto i/oh, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of nil that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose ugain the third day according to the scriptures:

2 Thessalonians 1:8

In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Romans 6:6

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

John 3:5

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Mark 16:15-16

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Romans 6:3-5

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Romans 6:8

Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Acts 2:4

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Acts 10:46

For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Acts 19:6


And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

1 Peter3:20-21

Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

John 14:28

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Luke 24:51

And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.

John 14:18

I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. John 14:26

But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever 7 have said unto you.

Why Hast Thou Forsaken me?

(Matthew 27:46)

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

The Trinitarian Question

Some questions are answered in the same way that others   are   answered.   This   is   one   of   those   questions. Trinitarians will bring up this argument when they are trying to show that the Father and the Son are two separate and j distinct persons of the triune Godhead. The problem is that | they use this same position for so many scriptures that one answer will always suffice the question that is being asked; namely, the dual nature of Jesus Christ. Let’s take a closer look.

Jesus said “My God my God why hast thou forsaken me?” (Mt. 27:46; Mk. 15:34) This took place as He was dying on the cross upon the hill called Calvary. It is one of the seven things recorded in the bible that Jesus said while He was on the cross.

What we are reading is the story of how Jesus is being put to death, after being brutally punished, for the sins of the entire world. It never gets old to think about the wonderful mercy that Christ displayed for us even while we were yet sinners.

While He was hanging on the cross as He drew near to His sacrificial death, with the weight of the world’s sin upon Him, He looked up and said these words “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani”. These words were interpreted as “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” The question that is then brought to oneness people is “who was Jesus talking to?” If Jesus is God, who was it that He was crying out to?

Their stance is obvious. It is that this shows Jesus talking to the Father, showing that there are 2 separate entities or persons in the Godhead. How then will the “Jesus Only’s” figure this one out?

The Trinitarian Dilemma

When someone raises this question concerning this statement that Jesus made on the cross, they should be prepared to answer some questions themselves; a lot of questions. Not questions about the bible, but about the doctrine that for centuries has been believed on without biblical backing. The doctrine of the trinity finds no support biblically and usually puts its proponents into a position of answering more questions then they ask.

Where Is The Holy Ghost?

For starters, where is the Holy Ghost? Why when showing distinction between persons of the Godhead does the Holy Ghost never seem to be part of the equation? Why is there never a conversation in scripture between the Father and the Holy Ghost? We always see a distinction between the Father and the Son, but never with the Holy Ghost. The reason is simple. The Father is the Holy Ghost! Saying Holy Ghost is the same as saying Holy Spirit. We know that God is a Spirit (Jn. 4:24) and that there is only one Spirit (Ep. 4:4). We know that the Father is holy (Lv. 11:44) so we must assume that the Father is the one Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost. This is why we never see the Father and Holy Spirit communicate with one another, because there is no “one another” at all. It is the same Spirit. There is only one (Eph. 4:4).

This, in and of itself, is proof that the trinity is false, but I will entertain the question anyway, for the sake of the reader.

Who Is Jesus’ Talking To?

Let me be very clear about this next dilemma. Oneness; people believe that Jesus was talking to the Father when He made the statement in question. What I am about to present is only to show the falseness and biblical contradiction of the doctrine of the trinity, not to question who Jesus was talking to.

The trinitarians assume (so do oneness people) that Jesus made this statement to the Father. When the bible declares the Father to be God, it does so rightly, but just to be clear about the definition of the trinity, the word ‘God’ does not automatically mean ‘Father’. This story does not say that Jesus said “Father, Father, why hast thou forsaken me”, but rather “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me”. Biblically speaking there isn’t much of a difference, but when it comes to the dogmatically defined trinity these are two very different statements.

According to the definition of the trinity given to us by the early church fathers at the council of Nicea and in the Athanasius Creed when we use the term ‘God’ we are talking about a triune God who is three in essence. The Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost would make up who God is. Three persons. So when Jesus looked up and said “My God, my God…” we must assume (if we are using trinitarian understanding) that He is talking to all three members. He didn’t say Father, He said God. That, by their standard, is three persons Jesus must have been talking to. Was Jesus talking to Himself? Did Jesus forsake Jesus? And we are accused of sounding ridiculous?

When will they learn that they cannot use these standards of doctrine when it is convenient for their stance and throw them aside when it becomes a burden for them?


The next problem the trinitarians find themselves trying to work out is their traditional and essential doctrine of co-existence. This doctrine says that each member of the Godhead is eternally co-existent, meaning that the three exist together, without separation, for all eternity.

If this is true concerning the trinity then we have to ask a major question. How can the Father, who is eternally co­existent with the Son, possibly forsake Him, therefore separating the two? This presents a problem for them on a number of levels. According to this doctrine, wherever the Son is so is the Father. Wherever the Father is, so is the Holy Ghost. Three separate and distinct persons yet they are all eternally together. They cannot be separated. Jesus said that

the Father forsook Him. If this is talking about a true forsaking where God left Jesus, co-existence goes out the window because they cannot co- exist and forsake each other at the same time? The Father’s forsaking of the Son is not consistent with the co-existence of the trinity. Either they are together or they are not together, but it cannot be both.

This is another case of having to choose to believe the bible or the teaching of the trinitarians. It usually bodes well for those who choose the bible.


Some people teach that the Spirit of God left the body of Jesus while He was on the cross at the point of his death. They say that this is because sin came upon Him and that God cannot come in contact with sin. Therefore, in that last moment of Jesus’ life, when sin came upon him completely and He cried out asking God why He had forsaken Him, the Spirit of God physically departed from the body of Jesus because He cannot touch sin.

The problem that I have with this teaching is that the very thing that made Jesus God was that the Spirit of God dwelt in Him, bodily (Col. 2:9). It is this heavenly infusion that is the core foundation of the fact that Jesus is God in the first place. If God forsook Jesus and left Him hanging there empty, void of the Spirit that was once so pleased to dwell in Him, was Jesus still God on the cross? How could He be? The very thing that made Him God is that the Spirit of God dwells in Him. If the spirit of God no longer dwelt in Him did He surrender His position as the second person of the Godhead for those three days? Does that mean that it was not actually God that made this sacrifice? This would make void any further need to discuss whether or not Jesus is a second person of God or not; now He is not even God at all. This is blasphemy.

So Was Jesus Forsaken?

This action was not as much a physical forsaking as much as it was an emotional abandonment. In everything that Jesus ever went through the Father was there to help. In everything that Jesus ever dealt with the Father was there to comfort Him. In Jesus’ darkest hour of prayer, the Father met Him in the garden. In His wilderness temptation, the angels ministered unto Him at the Father’s beckon call. Now, all of a sudden, in Jesus’ hardest trial, the Father could not help Him. The Father could not do anything for Jesus because it was His destiny to carry the burden of sin. Why wouldn’t Jesus feel forsaken at this moment?

To say that God cannot come in physical contact with sin does not make sense. God is in you and I, and we still sin. We are not perfect; so if God cannot come in contact with sin does God leave us every time we sin? “…Lo, I am with you ALWAY (always), even unto the end of the world. Amen” (Mt. 28:20). “…I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee” (Heb. 13:5). Every time you sin does God leave you? Paul said that evil (sin) was always present with him (Rm. 7:21). He even said that sin dwelt in him (Rm. 7:17). Does that mean we don’t have God with us because we have a sin nature? Wasn’t the purpose of this sacrifice to reunite us to Him, rather than to still be separated from us (2 Cor. 5:19)?

God has no problem physically touching sin. God is omnipresent; God is everywhere even in hell according to David (Ps. 139:8). If God is everywhere, surely He has come into physical contact with sin somewhere.

God’s Holy Nature

What then are people talking about when they say that God cannot come in contact with sin? It is His moral excellence. It is His holy nature that cannot endorse, or come into a union, with sin. God will never unify with sin and evil. God has to physically make contact with sin every day because God is omnipresent. Surely He dwells somewhere where sin exists? What He will not do is mingle with it. When Jesus cried out “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me”, it was not that the Father left him physically alone (Jn. 8:29), as much as it was that the Father allowed Him, for the first time, to go through something by Himself. God allowed Him for the first time to feel what it was like to exist without the intervention of the Spirit. Did the Spirit of God literally leave him? No, but for the first time the Spirit of God, because of Jesus’ destiny to save mankind from sin, had to allow Jesus to feel the full sting of death (1 Cor. 15:55). He had to literally be the bearer of man’s sin, without the help of the Father, because He was literally taking man’s place; under the curse of sin, apart from God.

I don’t know about you, but when I’ve done something wrong I feel terrible about it. If I am under some sin, it feels terrible. I would feel terrible about it. I have God inside of me yet would sometimes even question God about why He let it happen to me? That is what sin makes you feel; each is the action of all; the action of all is the action of each. The divine action is essentially one.

dark, alone and separated from God. Now, imagine having to go through that type of experience for sins you did not commit. Imagine going through it not only for one person’s sin, but for the trespasses of entire world from Adam until the very last person that would ever exist. Having the Father inside of you and knowing it, while the weight of sin literally crushes you, yet the Father does nothing about it. Wouldn’t you feel forsaken? Wouldn’t you feel like your father turned his back on you?

Did God physically leave Jesus on the cross alone? No. It was not that at all. It was that Jesus Christ for the first time felt what it was like to do something as a human without His Father helping him, and in that moment, He felt forsaken. Jesus did not get left as a mere human on a cross. He had the Spirit of God still within Him.

Scriptures declares that it was the Spirit of God that raised Jesus from the dead (Rm. 8:11), but Jesus said He would raise His own person from the dead (Jn. 2:19). When He said that if they were to “destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up” the bible says that He “spake of the temple of his body” (Jn. 2:19-21). So, who raised Jesus from the dead, the Father or the Son? We know that it was not two different persons doing two distinct actions.

Jesus could never have made this claim had He not been God manifest in the flesh. This was Jesus speaking as God. This shows us that the Father could not have departed from the body of His Son Jesus, because that would mean two distinct persons raised Christ from the dead. Jesus said He would raise His own person from the dead because He knew that the Father would not leave Him; could not leave Him because the Father is His Spirit nature. It was His own Spirit; therefore He could never be alive without it. It is the essence of who He is.

It was only at the point when Jesus died that the Spirit of the Father came out of His body; a dead body. When Jesus said “Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit” the bible tells us that Jesus “gave up the ghost”, meaning He died (Lk. 23:46). That is when the Spirit of God left the body of Jesus Christ, not when He asked the Father why He was left forsaken.

At that point Jesus had a feeling of forsakenness like He had never felt before because of the heaviness of sin that was upon Him as He carried out His destiny. Jesus was never left alone by the Father. The Father promised that He would never leave us, nor forsake us. That promise included every person, even His own Son (Heb. 13:5).

Unity of Divine Essence

This great understanding does not coincide with the belief in a triune God. The trinitarians hold another doctrine close to their hearts called the unity of the divine essence. This doctrine says that whatever the Father wills, the Son and the Holy Spirit also will. Since they are one, whatever the Father wills, the Son and the Holy Spirit will also. Whatever the Father does, the Son and Holy Spirit do also. There is no will and no action of God the Father which is not at the same time the will and action of God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. You see the unity here? Every action of God is the action of the Three. No one person of the trinity acts independently of or in isolation from the others. The action of each is the action of all; the action of all is the action of each. The divine action is essentially one.

If this is the case then why was Jesus asking inquisitively why the Father was turning His back on Him? I mean, they make no decisions without each other, right? If their minds or wills are in one accord at all times then Jesus would have had no need to ask the Father why He was forsaking Him. It would have been one action being made by the whole Godhead team, including the Son.


So to answer the question of this scripture showing two persons, the answer is no. This does not show two persons of the Godhead. This does show, however, the struggle of Jesus’ humanity as He was forfeiting His life for the sake of mankind. It shows that this was real, flesh humanity that died for our sins. It is a beautiful picture of the dual nature of Christ and that in his humanity, Jesus submitted to the will of the Father to redeem mankind in its helpless state.

I don’t know why anyone would ever want to change this into two persons. It is perfect the way it is. The humble submission of Jesus to the Father’s plan; how incredible! He knew that the Father was in Him and would be with Him forever. He was not forsaken by the Father literally, physically; He was forsaken of him in His emotion and strength. Reading this story, one can almost hear the Father’s heart cry; “I am here with you, and I am always going to be inside of you, but right now I have to let you go through this because you have to fulfill your destiny. I have to let you suffer and feel what this is like, because this is how man will feel for all eternity without me. I have to let this crush you. I have to literally let this kill you because through this, you are going to save the world.” The agony that He allowed His own flesh to feel was excruciating. I imagine it was hard, but He never gave up and came off of the cross. He did that for us. How amazing? What a beautiful picture of God going the distance to reconcile our relationship with Him. I don’t see why anyone would want to have it any other way.

Scripture References

Mark 15:34

And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

John 4:24

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Ephesians 4:4

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are catted in one hope of your calling;

Leviticus 11:44

For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Colossians 2:9

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Hebrews 13:5

Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

Romans 7:21

I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with

Romans 7:17

Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

2 Corinthians 5:19

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Psalms 139:8

If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

John 8:29

And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

I Corinthians 15:55

O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? Romans 8:11

But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

John 2:19-21

Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body.

Luke 23:46

And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

I Go to the Father!

(John 16:28)

I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

The Trinitarian Question

Jesus said He would go to the Father (Jn. 16:28). He also said that He came forth from the Father. The question that trinitarians will ask concerning this verse is; “if Jesus is the Father, who is Jesus going to”? They say that Jesus going to the Father is proof of more than one person. They say it shows us that there is distinction between the Father and the Son.

The Trinitarian Dilemma

Is it just me or is defining the “distinction” a pretty major problem for trinitarians? The common accusation that they falsely (and ineffectively) throw at us is that we believe there is no distinction between the Father and the Son. We do believe in a distinction between the Father and the Son concerning the natures, not as in persons (Ep. 4:4). They are not two persons, but two natures of one person; Jesus (Jn. 10:30). The Father dwells in the humanity of Jesus; therefore, Jesus is the Father by way of His divine nature (1 Tim. 3:16).

This is another stance that will always backfire on the Trinitarians. Quoting this verse of scripture and then asking us to see two individual persons is at best a stretch. At worst, it is a detriment to the whole scheme of trinitarian thinking. The question that the trinitarian will ask when citing this passage is “If Jesus is the Father, who is Jesus going to?” “Is Jesus going to Jesus?” This is the standard trinitarian straw man argument.


To fully understand the dilemma that faces the trinity doctrine, we must revisit the underlying principle of co­existence. The trinity, according to the creeds, is co-existent. According to this definition, wherever the Son is, so is the Father also. This is known as the doctrine of perichoresis. This means that everywhere that Jesus ever was, the Father had to be with Him.

Jesus said that the Father was with Him repetitively (Jn, 8:29). Jesus constantly reminds the disciples that the Father is with Him. It almost seems to make perichoresis sound correct until we get to the place where Jesus is going to the Father. When Jesus says He is going to the Father, perichoresis goes out the window. If I am going to come to you, then I am not with you. How could Jesus have the Father with Him, and at the same time be going to the Father? How can He be with the Father and not with the Father at the same time? This is impossible. If Jesus is going to the Father then He cannot have been with the Father the whole time. This is utter contradiction.

Reconciling the Contradiction

If we are to understand what Jesus meant when He said He was going to the Father, we must understand the context in which He was saying it. Notice that He was not just going to the Father, but He also came forth from the Father (Jn. 16:28). The key word there is the word “forth”. He didn’t say I came from the Father. He said He came ‘forth’ from the Father. These are two different things. To come from something is to say I was there and now I am here. Like saying I came from New York and now I live in Florida.

To say I came forth from something is another thing altogether. The word ‘forth’ means ‘into view’. What Jesus was saying was that He came into view from the Father. Before He could not be seen, but now He has become tangible. In other words, He came from being invisible and intangible and returned to being invisible and intangible. He came forth from deity and returned to deity; He came forth from Spirit and returned to Spirit. This refers more to His office and position rather than His location. He couldn’t have been saying He was going back to the location where the Father was, for the Father was ever with Him. The Spirit of God is omnipresent. It is everywhere present. You can never go anywhere where God is not.


Jesus, when making this statement, was not saying that He came from where the Father was and was returning again to that place. He was saying that He once was an invisible Spirit and after becoming a man, physical in nature; He was going back to His divine state of being. He was the Father, unlimited; then as the Son, He was the Father humbling Himself as a man, taking upon Himself the limitations of humanity (Ph. 2:7-8). After His purpose on earth was fulfilled, He went back to the Father; the deity.

“Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty” (2 Cor. 3:17). The Lord Jesus is that Spirit. The Lord Jesus is the Spirit of God in the form of a man. When He was finished with His work as a sinless man, He returned to His existence in the realm of the Spirit. It is the Spirit of God that is still in operation in the church today, and the Lord is that Spirit.

Scripture References

Ephesians 4:4

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

John 10:30

I and my Father are one.

1 Timothy 3:16

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Philippians 2:7-8

But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

John 8:29

And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

2 Corinthians 3:17

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

The Dual-Nature of Christ

Over the next few blogs we will discuss statements that Christ made that have been misunderstood (and misused) to say that the Father and the Son are two separate and distinct persons of the Godhead. Christ never referred to the Father as a separate person. What was He referring to then?

To better understand these statements that were made we will first need to visit the doctrine of Christ’s dual nature. Oneness and Trinitarians alike can agree on the fact that Jesus was dual-natured. Both will readily make the statement that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man. However, the disagreement arises rapidly when we begin discussing what, or who, these natures are; namely, the God nature.

The belief in only one God is called monotheism, which comes from two Greek words: monos, meaning alone, one, single, and Theos, meaning God. This is an essential doctrine for Christians to believe. The purport of this doctrine is that it not only places God alone, but also unequaled. (The Oneness of God, David Bernard)

God is a Spirit (Jn. 4:24). This truth is consistent throughout the entire bible. He is called “the Father of spirits.“(Heb. 12:9) As a Spirit, God is an intelligent, supernatural being who does not have a physical body (Lk. 24:39). Not having a physical nature, He was not visible or physically tangible to mankind. This was the main reason for the incarnation.

The bible teaches that there is only one Spirit that makes up the Godhead (Eph. 4:4). There are not multiple spirits in the Godhead of whom one manifested in a flesh body as the Son of God. The Spirit that performed the creation of the universe is not different or distinct from the Spirit that was in Christ, or from the Spirit that is active in the church today. There is but one Spirit of God, and He is immutable, unending, omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. Other references to this truth can be found in (Genesis 1:2; 1 Corinthians 12: 4-13; Ephesians 2:18; Ephesians 4:5) to name a few.

When we see that one Spirit move as the Father, we see the same Spirit that was incarnate in Christ’s person. It is also the same Spirit that we see in action in the life of a believer in the church body. Paul described it as “one and the selfsame Spirit” (1 Cor. 12:11). The word selfsame means exact. The essence of the Spirit has been compared to or illustrated by the substance, H2O. When you have water in a cup it is H2O in liquid form. If you freeze the water from the cup, it is no longer liquid but ice, or if you boil it, it will become steam. The form changed, but the substance was always the same, unchanged. So it is with the Spirit, the form may change, but the substance is immutable.

Jesus promised to send “another comforter”, or the Holy Ghost. A few verses later He said “I will not leave you comfortless, I will come to you” (John 14:18). When you have the Holy Ghost you truly have the Spirit of Christ dwelling in you. Now the Lord is that Spirit (2 Cor. 3:17). We see Jesus clearly being identified with that one Spirit, it is no wonder why He said it was the Father who dwelt in him that did the (Jn. 14:10).

The centrality of this teaching goes back to the very j earliest of time, at creation. Then it was firmly stated in what | is known as “the Shema” (Deuteronomy 6:4). This is the core value of Judaism and true Christianity. The Jewish people recognize this as Jehovah or YHVH, and consider pluralizing the Lord’s oneness, blasphemy. This is to say there is one Lord (Eph. 4:5).

Acts 10:36 says, “The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (He is Lord of all:)”. Jesus on earth was God manifest in the flesh. He was the fullness of God embodied in humanity. He was not a half God half man hybrid. He was 100% God and 100% man. He was the fullness of both natures interpenetrated into one being. He was the Son of God by way of humanity, and God Himself by way of His deity. Simply stated… “For in Him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. (Colossians 2:9)

These verses of scripture are very clear and explicitly definitive in declaring that Christ is God. If this is so, then where is the problem? The problem arises when we start to probe the trinitarian doctrine for explanation on which of their persons it is that actually embodies this man Christ through the incarnation. The bible is very clear about who dwelt in Jesus making Him God. It was the Father (Is. 9:6, Jn. 2:19, Jn. 8:19-30, Jn. 10:30, Jn. 14:10-11, Jn. 14:13, Jn. 17:21). The scriptures never declare one time that God the Son indwelt Jesus. In fact, the words “God the Son” aren’t declared anywhere in scripture. It is a term that is foreign to biblical verbiage.

The dual nature of Christ doesn’t even make sense when looking at it as the Son being indwelt by the son. What makes God the Son, a son if he were never begotten by the Father? Would He really be the Son, who was never begotten? This shows that the Son is not an eternal being, but that sonship began in the womb of the virgin. This was not the Father in heaven sending the second person (God the Son) to indwell a man and do a work while He and the third person (Holy Spirit) stayed back and watched. This is so far away from biblical truth.

What we really see is a beautiful symphony of God’s perfection and wisdom in action at the incarnation. God, who is the Father, placed His seed in the womb of the Virgin Mary and she brought forth a son called Jesus (Mt. 1:18-23). This son would be the savior of all mankind. This was called Emmanuel or God with us (Mt. 1:23).

This Jesus was completely human because He was born of a woman, His mother. He grew both in wisdom and stature as a man (Lk. 2:52). He was both hungry and thirsty as a man (Jn. 19:28). He wept (Jn. 11:35), slept (Mt. 8:24), mourned (Jn. 11:38) and scorned as a man (Mt. 21:12). He did all that a human does in life with the only exception; sin. He was completely perfect, but He was completely human.

This same Jesus was not just a man, but was also completely God. This is so because He was conceived by the Spirit of God (Mt. 1:20). God is His literal begetting Father (Jn. 3:16). We see Jesus do many things that a man could not do, even though He be the Son of God. Jesus raised the dead (Jn. 11:43). Who can raise the dead except God? We see Jesus walk on water (Jn. 6:19). Jesus saw Nathanael before He ever even met him in person (Jn. 1:48). He knew what people thought in their hearts without them ever saying a word (Mk. 2:8). These things He did as God. For what man could do these miracles except the Father be with Him (Jn. 3:2)?

The thoughts that Jesus perceived in the hearts of these men without them saying a word (Mk. 2:8) started because of the actions of Jesus prior in the story. They reasoned within themselves because Jesus, the man that stood in front of them, forgave the sins of a man sick with palsy. Their reasoning… “Why doth this man speak blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God only?” (Mk. 2:7) Jesus forgave sins. No man can do that in and of Himself, not even the Son of God. This He did as God. We know this is the case because of the first part of the response of the men. “Why doth this man speak blasphemies?” It would not be considered blasphemy to call Himself God’s Son. He did that many times and they just thought He was crazy. It was when He, being a man, made Himself Jehovah that they wanted to kill Him for blasphemy. “The Jews answered Him, saying, for a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, maketh thyself God” (Jn. 10:33). Jesus Christ was not only completely man, but also fully God and had no problem making that clear in the ears of all who would listen.

Why would the dual nature seem illogical at all? Think about it, when a child is born to his parents, he is not half from his mother and half from his father. He is not only half his mother’s child. He is completely of his mother and completely of his father. I was born to Leroy and LaVerne Yates (Maiden Name “Bush”). I am not a half a Yates because my mother was a Bush. I am completely Yates (ask my mom, she will tell you). Without my father I could not be born. Without my mother I could not be born. I am completely of both of my parents.

Why would this truth be any different in Jesus? He is completely man because of His mother’s DNA, and completely God because of His Father’s DNA. He was both a God product as well as a human product, both completely and simultaneously. Jesus had both human and God DNA as the makeup of His person. He was completely full of God DNA and completely full of human DNA. This makes Jesus both God and man. This is the dual nature of Christ.

Now on to more questions…

Scripture References

John 4:24

God is a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth.

Hebrews 12:9

Furthermore we have had Fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

Luke 24:39

Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Ephesians 4:4

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

Genesis 1:2

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

1 Corinthians 12:4-13

Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these things worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Ephesians 2:18

For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

Ephesians 4:5

One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

1 Corinthians 12:11

But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

John 14:18

  1. will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
  2. 1 Corinthians 3:17

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

John 14:10

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Deuteronomy 6:4

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Acts 10:36

The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)

Colossians 2:9

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

John 2:19

Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

John 8:19-30

Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come. Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come. Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? Because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come. And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. As he spake these words, many believed on him.

John 10:30

I and my Father are one. John 14:10-11

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

John 14:13

And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

John 17:21

That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

Matthew 1:18-23

Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Luke 2:52

And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

John 19:28

After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

John 11:35

Jesus wept.

Matthew 11:38

Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it.

Matthew 21:12

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

Matthew 1:20

But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 11:43

And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

John 1:48

Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.

Mark 2:8

And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts

1John 3:2

The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

Mark 2:7

Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

John 10:33

The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thy self God.